
35mm Lens Adapters
5 months ago
35mm lens adapters cost thousands to buy, hundreds to build, degrade the objective technical quality of your video and make your camcorder an entire magnitude more difficult to use. And they won't make your video magically look like film. Nothing will.
On the other hand, by adding selective focusing options to small consumer camcorders, 35mm lens adapters have the potential to produce some absolutely gorgeous images. Do you need one? No. Do you want one? I know I do!
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On the other hand, by adding selective focusing options to small consumer camcorders, 35mm lens adapters have the potential to produce some absolutely gorgeous images. Do you need one? No. Do you want one? I know I do!
- videopia.org
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Can I assume that your professional recommendation is that we should all run out and buy a P/S Technik that starts at $22,500 (w/o the lens, of course) for our sub-$1,000 consumer camcorders?
When are we going to shoot a Charlie v. Eric episode!
The beauty of the adapters now is that they adapt all sorts of lenses (i.e. PL Mount, Nikon, Canon ect) and provide a variety of options for different budgets and tastes.
Chances are, if your considering a depth of field adapter, your not concerned with the notion of add on accessories or increased production time.
Anything visually worth while comes with a price. Until now, gear like this has never been accessible to the "common" man. If a shot looks good, it probably costs a lot of money to pull off.
(However, if anyone has a spare Letus that they want to give me, I'm OK with that :)
Rhetorical question. Yes, there are lots of great vids produced using these adapters, here for example:
vimeo.com/filmlook
And possibly the first step would be to upgrade to a better camera before bolting on a DOF solution, though I fully concede that more than impressive results are being had by some people with budget cameras, a Letus, and lots of skill.
Sure there will be people who buy this equipment to mask their bad techniques, but, there are tons of Final Cut Editors / Avid Editors / Red Camera Operators that are trying to "buy" their way into the industry because the cost of ownership has dropped.
In qualified hands, a DOF adapter is a method of achieving a new approach to low budget storytelling.
I agree with the LCD issue. If you read some of the threads in the REDUSER forum you will see that AC's are having issues with focus in 2K and 4K. So, in general, there is no forgiveness with new, high rez mediums.
At first glance (1) it makes me cranky, but then I think (2) it won't matter, because when you give a hack a million dollars worth of gear, he's still gonna be a hack and it'll show.
(You know I'm kidding...I'm a DEF fan for life)
Everything is subjective and situational, but generally, the most knowledgeable, problem solving, courteous, humble, team players are the ones who keep working.
So "buying in" is fine if your willing to face the firing squad (and hopefully survive)
EDIT: oh this is D. eric franks video blog? nice.
vimeo.com/1403211
and was wondering how did he managed to get the look on that video.
I checked online each of the devices and it was funny to learn that one of the lenses costs about the same as the camera and that the adapter cost almost double the 200mm lens and the camcorder . After shooting, the video was post-processed to look like film stock. The comment posted above about "people buying their way into film making" actually makes sense in this case: there is no way for pixel viking to get that level of photography without the rig he had at his disposal ( this is not meant to be derogatory, he does have a nice technique and composition)
I do wonder – being only a filmmaking fan that worked sometime ago in postproduction – what is the final purpose of this techniques: is it only for fun ? do this techniques get used on the commercial world? The rig portrayed in the video above sure looks heavy and is certainly not cheap.
(1) beginners building/buying 35mm adapters without knowing what they are getting into
(2) serious amateurs that have already mastered their camera and have good technique already and THEN they buy a 35mm adapter to enhance their already excellent video
(3) Pros that know exactly what they are doing.
Pixel Viking definitely looks like category (2). He has a $1,000 camera, $1,000 adapter and a pair of nice lenses to work with, so probably $3,000-$5,000 worth of gear. He shoots and fames very artistically, with the eye of a photographer.
The Magic Bullet "looks" stuff is nice, but I think his shots look good without it. MBLooks is a nice shortcut to some cool effects, but (with a little effort and knowlege) you can do the same thing with the tools that come with your editing software - levels, color correction, etc.
Our conversation about "buying into" the profession does not apply here. We mean someone (like a lawyer or stock broker) that quits their job or a bored rich kid that decides to become a "filmmaker" because it looks fun, so they drop $20,000 on gear and decide to make a movie. These people very very quickly learn it takes more than money!
As for people buying into the industry, who really cares - of course they'll realise it takes more than gear ... just 'cause you drive a Ferrari doesn't make you Michael Shumacher but I'm sure it's a lot of fun anyway :)
35mm adapters, Magic Bullet etc ... they're all just tools. Ultimately, it's about how you use the tools available not the tools themselves.
As for my 35mm adapter ... you'll have to pry it from my cold dead hands ;)
I agree about the Magic Bullet look: I think that the video should work without it, the wheat looks over filtered in this case, it seems to loose some detail.
12 years ago the level of cinematography portrayed in this movies was impossible at the consumer and amateur level, it is astounding how fast and far the medium has advanced.
I'm new to vimeo, I'm hoping to find more shorts that actually use this exiting techniques to tell a meaningful story, which in the end I guess is the purpose of using this tools.
vimeo.com/822096