
Adam Kimmel presents: Claremont HD
1 year ago
A Film by: Ari Marcopoulos
Director of Photography: Colin Blackshear
Producer: Neville Wakefield
Director of Photography: Colin Blackshear
Producer: Neville Wakefield
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Crazy.
Noah has a S9 race deck (limited edition) Bear Smokies trucks and S9 race formula wheels
Great video
I'm in awe
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"Man, that was fast."
Understatement.
also, about the cinema, when was the last time you passed a camera back and forth between your buddy while going 40+ mph on a skateboard? I think that is pretty impressive.
Maybe the medium is that it is a simple sport. easy editing, natural sound, pure energy and adrenaline is all you need to convey the sport. This is the best downhill video I have ever seen. but it could be possible that i am more inclined to enjoy because i know what it is like to scream down hills on a skateboard.
Crap. I just realized that you called one scene "gay" and it makes me feel like I just wasted my time responding to an ignorant person. oh well.
I understand that you're attempting to discuss the cinematic aspect of this, but perhaps you should accept that Eisenstein-like editing of this would take away from the realism of it all. This isn't a bone chilling chase scene from some modern film, but a realistic interpretation of this sport. Editing would take away from the realism in this instance. Since I began this response by referring to one Russian genius, I'll end it with reference to another. Tarkovsky would feel the rhythm in this video is perhaps perfect.
I hope you don't interpret this comment as an attack on you, but as me simply trying to help you see an artistic side in this rather than the simple "Screw yous" that others may give. I, at the least, agree with you on the clothing aspect. That scene wasn't necessary, but it was "fun." We must remember, they weren't going for this to be a perfect cinematic masterpiece, but a fun portrayal of the sport.
Take care and I wish you the best.
Downhill skateboarding, by the way, can indeed be presented in the way you seem to prefer, with deliberate pacing and slick editing (see orangefiist.com/OrangeFiistMovie2.htm , for example). But that's racing, in a controlled environment (no cars), unlike the free-form randomness of that Claremont road with its cars, potholes and (much greater) speed. Riding down Claremont is a VERY dangerous thing, with "real time" happening really fast. If it seemed safe to you after 20 seconds, you must not have been paying very close attention.
You wrote that everything needs a special delivery, a little sizzle. I disagree. Sometimes the sizzle is inherent in the action itself. I watched this video and couldn't help but feel a profound tension and state of agitation throughout the whole video--until the riders arrived safely at the bottom, when I felt a palpable relief. So you tell me: Given the subject matter, is that any less of an aesthetic achievement for the filmmakers than if they'd "finessed" it like a ballet?
Don't get me wrong. I think there's a place for all kinds of presentation. I just have a hard time believing you found this video "safe" after 20 seconds.
I think I'll watch the video again! :-)
If you watch 'the aviator' there is a scene where Leo (cant remember the character he plays) looks at the rushes of the fighter plane dog fight. The planes look slow! He then decides that the scene needs clouds! With clouds you wil have more of a reference of speed and will feel energy of the dog fight more. Ahhhh. Now that is what I mean.
I agree that some footage is better unedited. My problem with this video is that we as an audience know it is set up from the get go. When you know it's a set up you expect something different to say if you just happened to catch something on camera - now maybe that would have been an interesting take on this video, you know captured by a german tourist or something.
a 10 minute video being 9 minutes too long. Yeah... I hear you. Almost everything I make is too long for everyone but me. People are hard to entertain, but you must remember than entertainment is key. Unless you really are making videos just for yourself but I have never believed that to be true of anyones recordings/art/ whatever... It's always to be shown.
Conveying the true meaning in your rally videos. I havent seen your videos yet, but I would be tempted to say that you need to show the audience YOU. Not neccessarilly your face. Maybe your sweaty shaking hands, something that shows us that a human being is experiencing speed.
If we just look out the car window as a P.O.V. shot.. then we are dissapointed becuase theme parks have much nicer 3d rides along that vein. I want to know that a human being is going down the hill... riding the car e.t.c I want to know how that human feels and I want a glimpse of what he thinks when he turns the corner, gets a fright, almost crashes e.t.c. I want to see that humans face when he finaly conquers the hill. In saving private ryan it opens with Tom Hanks shaky hands. In jurassic park we feel the power of T rex when we see the ripples in the shaking glass of water... and those ripples reflect the trembling people. Show me people and what they feel, then you have stories that will always be 9 minutes too short!
I'll watch you videos later this week.
Remind me if i forget
You don't seem to understand that the skaters don't have full control over what the camera is looking at because more than half the time they're not even looking at the viewfinder. Your textbook film school ideologies is severely lacking the open-mindedness needed to evolve cinema.
This is not a movie where a director sits in a chair and watches each shot carefully and yells "cut!" and every car and every extra stops and returns to their starting position. This is LIVE. This is NOT "set up". At any point one of these guys trips, they might hit a car and die. THAT is the driving point of the short- thus they cannot edit it. The more they cut it, the more it's fake. The more single shots there are here, the more convincing the danger. And anyone with half a brain can watch this and realize they are in real danger because of the long takes. Their concern isn't to present to the audience in a way that will keep their attention, because the very act is enough.
Are you saying it's "set up" simply because they set out to do this? Then you've missed the point because when they are actually doing it, it's real. None of the act itself is "set up" so it's real. The danger is real. And the best way to present that to the audience is not making it fancy and "delivering" it well. The method to this cinema is to make it as home video as possible so the audience understands this is an event that really happened.
I'm not trying to attack you but I want you to understand why everyone else is. You can't compare this movie to Hollywood movies and you can't criticize the techniques by comparing them to Hollywood techniques. This is a different kind of cinema and to understand it, to see why it works for so many others, you have to quit thinking this is fake and "set up".
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THIS SHIT IS BETTER THAN DOPE!
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Loved the shot and the speed !
Skills - Excellent! *****
Style - Beyond Excellent! ******
Over all this video gets 10 you guys are the bomb!
RESPECT!!
This probably the best DH skateboarding video that i have saw, you can feel the ruch the wind!!!
You r guys are from sector9 no?
Outstanding!!! (and a great job on the video too)