
D90 and HVX side-by-side test
1 year ago
Side-by-side test between the Nikon D90 and Panasonic HVX200. The D90 footage uses the AE-Lock trip before shooting, except for the last shot which you can see us experimenting and locking/unlocking the AE-L to see what happens.
By: Chronicle Project (www.chronicleproject.org)
Music: From the Cinecue library (www.cinecue.com)
By: Chronicle Project (www.chronicleproject.org)
Music: From the Cinecue library (www.cinecue.com)
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I downloaded the 720p original and watched it at 480p size (853 x 480). The D90 colors look so much better. HVX Video look vs. D90 Film look. If only Nikon would increase the bitrate and allow manual control over ISO and shutter speed.
Into which codec do you convertthe MJPEG for editing? ProRes?
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But I would like to see them make the flip-up cap/hood like they make for these other Nikon models:
hoodmanusa.com/products.asp?dept=1030
What I have seen in all the D90 videos in the shallow DOF- which will be great for people who know what they are doing but it may be a problem in many situations and if you don't focus right on you will have an out of focus video.
Can you fix the aperture at say f8, choose higher ISO to make up for it and have higher DOF?
Yeah, focus was an issue when shooting on the fly. But if you get the focus right then it may be worth it.
we' weren't going to post it. w
White balance seems to have been off in some of the clips, some post processing would surely improve things. It worked well as an out of camera comparison though.
Thanks for taking the time to compare
Thanks for sharing!
Oh, and sure the bokeh helps a lot :)
You should compare with a DOF adapter on the HVX
Thanks so much for this test, btw!
D90 only likes to see a dof function.
I hope Nikon upgrades the compression to handle highly detailed scenes. Lanscapes or detailed scenes seem to soak up the bit rate and rob detail from the frames.
Likewise, lower light levels push gain (which is tough to conltrol [no manual controls for it at all]) and that seems to degrade detail faster than anything else. My guess is that the D90's gain introduces too much noise. That noise constitutes detail and soaks up all the bit rate making for lousy footage. Excessive gain can even look out of focus.
Bright scenes or fast lenses requiring less gain, make less noise and allows the codec to use the bit rate for picture detail. The results are much better but even so, they are only 720P.
But as this demonstration video shows, the D90 is very filmic in its look. I used to shoot Kodakrome Super 8mm to get film look of my family. Kodak discontinued the stock and processing is increasingly inconvenient. I love the D90 because it gives me a respectable film look. Yes it has artifacts but every film or film-like option does, unless you can afford to shoot with a Sony CineAlta or a 35mm Panavision and like shooting family events with a huge camera.
Shoot with as little gain as possible and you should get workable results. Only the tightest shots with the coolest lighting (Golden hour stuff) have made me think "wow". Everything else is like "hmmmm.. ok".
The amazing thing about the D90 is it's (in comparison to the HVX) gigantic CCD which produces the great DOF.
I just can't wait for RED's Scarlet at next years NAB.
I think the D90 holds up very well against the HVX, in fact I am shocked it looks as good as it does......
HVX = my favorite cam under 10k. This one just needs an adapter.
Steve, I have a D200 and really like how the 200 feels when "driving it".. .(same as a D2x, D1x etc)... the D90 even with a vertical grip does not feel as "beefy" as I like.... the way the buttons push, etc.
If you're not shooting a ton or can overlook it, then yes it's ok.
btw, i have my girl carry my tripod too. haha.
Also if you had intended to make them look the same why then did you not use a 35mm adapter such as a movie tube or letus? People are commenting the dof on the D90 as being better... well of course it is the way the lenes are made are fundamentally different, thus they produce far different dof. If you re did these tests with proper white balance (which takes 2 seconds on the HVX) and put a 35mm adapter on it and used the same lens as on the D90 the results will not be close to the same.
Whilst the D90 is fun to play with the reality is an HVX with a 35mm adaptor is far superior as it supports a vast number more frame rates and 24pN which the D90 does not. And also the HVX has a far higher bit rate. So if you just want to put D90 video on the internet then its not bad but if you want to do anything else with it, it just looks like poop.
OH and as far as the color issue people are talking about all that is adjustable in the controls of the HVX so you can get more saturated colors if you would like. Also you could just color correct in post.
youtube.com/watch?v=-PQWKpUfLUA
This is the Redrock M2
youtube.com/watch?v=uM-6Z3LvEaI
And this is the Movietube.
movietube.com/index2.php
We've learned a lot since shooting this test. If you want to see what the D90 is really capable of, check out our new series... 90% was shot on the D90... deidox.com.
I guess I still prefer the D90. I like the depth-of-field and the smoother, more film-like color and contrast rendition. Doesn't look video-ish at all.