Here's a demo of before and after footage of night freeway driving comparing default auto exposure to the Tv mode exposure lock trick described on the HV20 enthusiast sites.

I used a Blackberry Curve with its photo viewer and a 75% grey 320x240 JPEG to lock the initial exposure, then adjusted the exposure up +10 for maximum aperture with zero gain using the "half-press" photo button technique to monitor the actual setting.

The auto-exposed version is unnaturally bright and extremely noisy, while the exposure locked and gain optimized version much better represents the actual perceived brightness, with nearly zero gain noise.

Best to view this video full screen non-scaled as the small image playback scaling hides a lot of the auto exposure noise.

I've had this camera for two days and am absolutely thrilled!

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  • microscope 2 years ago
    wow! Huge improvement! Did you adjust the white balance with the neutral gray photo in the first part of your test as well as the second, or only the second? The second (improved) exposure not only looks more natural, but better color balanced as well.
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  • Michael Eskin 2 years ago
    No, I only adjusted the exposure, not the color balance.
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  • Bernard Maltais 2 years ago
    One might call the difference night and day ;-) The exposure lock trick look so much better! Thank you for sharing!
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  • microscope 2 years ago
    my apologies! very interesting results.
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  • Northwesterner 2 years ago
    Do the same test using Cinemode and Daylight Setting. I would love to see how that looks compared to this. Thanks for posting
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  • Tiago Pierotti 2 years ago
    hey! great video!
    one question... you must have a memory card to do that trick with the photo button or it works without a memory card ?

    tanx very much
  • funnychicken 1 year ago
    you need a memory card
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  • Michael Eskin 2 years ago
    You need the memory card to adjust the exposure after you do the trick with the cellphone. You can use the half-press shutter trick to check the aperture and adjust the exposure until you max out the aperture, beyond that you're just adding gain. Without the card, there is no way to check the f-stop.
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  • Alli Gallixsee 2 years ago
    that's an incredible difference. thanks for the side by side comparison! I have still not remembered to pick up a memory card so I haven't been able to test this out yet. But I am curious- how much of this difference can be evened out in post?
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  • NiX Cadmium 2 years ago
    Very nice! Were you using a steadicam?
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  • Jamie Motz 2 years ago
    I'm amazed that you did all this while driving. Why is no one else aware of that? j/k very useful trick thanx!
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  • Ronald 2 years ago
    holy crap dude i go to that 24 hour fitness gym!! the first shot was around the La Mesa area of san diego right??
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  • exte 2 years ago
    Would you try this again, but using also the "SPOTLIGHT MODE" as it has been rumored to be 0db gain...?
  • kruzer 2 months ago
    spotlight IS ZERO GAIN.
    Use it all the time.... even in daylight and full sun.
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  • Stephen 2 years ago
    Thanks for the illustration- this was just what I needed to see to put two and two together. Going to try this trick tonight. Blessings.
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  • kruzer 2 years ago
    cool!
    well done
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  • Matt Horner 2 years ago
    Aweome difference.
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  • Carles 2 years ago
    i prefer the first one, in second you can't see lights of you car, so it's not so natural i think.
  • funnychicken 1 year ago
    you could manually add small amounts of gain until you get a good mix between the two.

    I personally prefer the second one
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  • Brock Riggs 1 year ago
    Thanks for the demo. I'd read about the trick, but this really helped me understand what it does. The difference is amazing.
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  • Carlos Crooks 1 year ago
    Nice test man thanks.
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  • Steven Tufaro 1 year ago
    I like! Although the second part looks a bit too smooth to be 1/24th. Are you sure about that?

    - Steve.
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  • Brendan Hildebrandt 11 months ago
    Check out my video '430' for more HV20 night shooting.
    All I did was lower exposure to -11, shot in Cinemode and applied Shadow/Highlight & RGB curves. in PP CS3 post production.

    -Brendan
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  • Peter Quiambao Jr. 10 months ago
    Is it just me, or is does your footage (when no gain is added) just look a lot darker on the LCD than you think it should? For example, my room is pretty well lit, but with no gain added, my room looks really dim through the LCD on my camera. Haven't been able to look at the footage yet (been messing around with pulldown removal and editing with proxies), but I wanted to get other people's opinions.

    It always feels like I'm doing this sort of stuff different from everybody (Export settings, no gain trick, etc.) Always feels like everyone else's stuff is way better than mine :D Guess that's a good quality though. Always striving for something better.
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  • Cote Vanidestine 10 months ago
    could you tell me where you found out about how to do this or explain how you did this because i am totally new to the hv30 and i just got it like a couple of months ago and im not sure really how all the exposure and stuff works
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  • Mohd. Imran 3 months ago
    The difference in quality is Staggering! What an insightful clip!

    1 question: What was the f-stop u used before locking the exposure? I read somewhere that f4.8 is the optimal setting you need to use in order to get maximum aperture with zero gain!

    Did you lock it at f4.8 and move the exposure upwards too?
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  • Freakshow Paparazzi 3 months ago
    Great, but what if I don't own a Blackberry?

    What about the brightness settings on your blackberry wouldn't that come into play as well?

    Wouldn't it be best to always use black (as in lens cap on when setting exposure lock) so it will always be the same starting point? Or am I just not getting this at all?

    Great video footage. I had no idea such a drastic difference could come in low light with these tricks. Makes me love my camera more (if I could just learn how to take advantage of this esoteric knowledge)
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  • Michael Eskin 3 months ago
    No, you don't want to use black, you need to use a mid grey to avoid having the camera add gain. This thread should provide some better background info:
    hv20.com/showthread.php?t=14958

    You don't need a blackberry, even the home screen on a cellphone can be used if you have a bright enough background image.
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  • • a c a l d a s • 2 months ago
    Excellent results! Congrats.
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