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14. Coffee at mom's - Getting to know the Steadicam Merlin
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I went to see my mom last Saturday - brought the Steadicam Merlin that I'm still learning to use. There's less pendulum effect in this footage - maybe because I'm walking around slower than in my forest footage: vimeo.com/831855

This was shot in 25p (PAL) TV mode (1/25) and AWB. I think, I need to use a faster shutter speed for moving shots - maybe something like 1/100 instead. I think that would have given me less blurriness.

The Steadicam Merlin is not a toy that instantly makes any footage look like a million dollar production - you need to practice with it for some time before you get to know it well.

If you don't mind the price, I can highly recommend it for any advanced user. By advanced, I mean someone with a good portion of patience and someone who's not expecting it to be perfect right out of the box :)
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  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    I think a faster shutter speed would have helped a lot. Did you slow it down because of the lighting?
    I agree that it takes a lot of practice. I have trouble with quick movement or directional changes.
    For some reason this played back very choppy. I will download it and see if that makes a difference.
    Nice job, you are getting better.
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    Nothing was slowed down. Vimeo seems to be very hard on my videos - I used Eugenia's recommendations for rendering to WMV @ 1280x720, so I'm not sure why it's choppy. I turned off 're-sampling' but don't think that has anything to do with it.
  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    Don't worry, there is something wrong on my end. I think my connection has something wrong with it and is just slow right now. I could not even download your video.
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    Someone at Youtube told me that Vimeo's FLV files (the flash movie that my WMV file is embedded into here on Vimeo) is running at 30fps. If that's correct, it would explain why I see my videos as being very choppy, since they were recorded and rendered at 25fps).

    Does anybody know the answer?
  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    I don't know about that, but I do know that your video is playing just fine. No problems with it at all.
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  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    Watched it again after a restart on my comp. That looks really good. I am so impressed. You are doing really well. You made some great moves without any swing at all. Great job! I have to get my butt in gear. This motivates me to practice some more.
    And I agree with what you said. You should not expect this to work perfect right out of the box. The "cookbook" recipes Tiffen provides are merely a good starting point. But there is no magic formula that will work for everyone. My mentors always told me, "Practice makes Permanent."
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  • RogerB1 4 months ago
    I am impressed as how you have been improving with the Merlin. I hope to get one soon. Anyway, what did you do to get the movie to look so clear and sharp here on Vimeo? It is outstandingly sharp. Are you editing with Vegas? What settings did you use? thanks Roger
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    Thanks Roger.

    I use Sony Vegas Platinum 8. I got to know Vegas by following Eugenia's tutorial:

    eugenia.gnomefiles.org/2007/09/19/crash-course-on-sony-vegas/

    and rendered it with her recommendations:

    eugenia.gnomefiles.org/images/wmv.png (since I'm in Europe and use PAL, I used a setting for 25p instead).

    I added some 'sharpness' in vegas too.
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  • Tiago Pierotti 4 months ago
    Well Done Rico!
    This is definitely much better!
    Loved the up and down movements and the smooth 360º pans :)
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  • Jeronimo Gadea 4 months ago
    You're getting good at this!
    Much improvement from your walk in the park vid.
    Loved the smooth pans.
    Congrats.

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  • RogerB1 4 months ago
    I also used Vegas on mine and don't think it was as clear as yours. I also followed Eugenia's tutorial. It is very helpful. For some reason I thought yours was more clear then mine. I shoot with a Canon HG10 and a Sony HC1. Both are excellent camcorders.

  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    I normally use a custom setting on the HG10 with "Col. depth" @ plus "Brightn." @ minus "Contrast" @ plus and "Sharpness" @ plus. I also added more contrast and changed the colors a bit in Vegas. I always record using the HXP setting (15.000 kbps) and render / upload at between 5 and 7 kbps.

    Maybe that's the difference you see.
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  • Bo Lorentzen 4 months ago
    Rico - NICE - love the jumping. (smile)
    Bout shutterspeed - clearly I do not know the answer, but I am wondering if not a longer shutter speed might actually "pleasantly" affect the image with motion in that it will get a bit of motion blur rather than a series of very hard images in the motion.? Guess what I am wondering if what would happen if you instead slowed the shutter...?
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    I understand digital cameras better than camcorders - here's my thoughts...

    A shutter speed of 1/25 and a frame rate of 25 (since I'm on a PAL as opposed to NTSC) means that the camcorder records 'all the time'. If you set it to 1/12, you obviously will only get 12 frames pr. second - this makes the footage very choppy and blured.

    If you use a shutter speed of 1/100 and a frame rate of 25, I guess it means that the camcorder takes an image at 1/100 of a second, then holds the shutter closed for a while and then takes another at 1/100. This should give you 25 frames that are not blurry, but I guess it will also leave out some information, since it's not recording 'all the time'.

    Does that make sence? :)
  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    I don't think shutter speed on these cameras affect how many frames per second. I thought shutter speed was simply how fast the shutter opens and closes. We set how many frames per second by choosing either 24p or 60i(for NTSC). That gives us either 24 or 30 frames per second, no matter what the shutter speed. I think slower shutter speed keeps the shutter open longer, allowing more exposure per frame. This is why images can be blurred when moving. A single frame is passing in front of the shutter at a constant speed. We can just change how much exposure that frame receives by changing shutter speed or aperture.
    I could be mistaken though.
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    No, I think you are right. That's what I thought too. However, at 1/12 or 1/6 (as I can shoot on my PAL version) you will not be able to get 25 frames pr. second - at least if my math is correct :D
  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    I may not understand what you mean. Setting frame rate, I believe affects how fast the tape is being sent across the lens. So changing shutter speed will not affect your frame rate at all. the 1/12 means the shutter is only open for 1/12 of a second and so on. So this has no effect on your frame rate. Set your frame rate to 30fps and the tape is now traveling faster past the lens.
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    It's not easy :) but a shutter speed of 1/12th of a second to me means that the camcorder will max be able to record 12 frames pr. second.

    From Bo's link, it's stated that the camcorder doesn't handle shutter speed with the shutter but rather with how it exposes the sensor. I'm guessing, it then records at 25fps but frame 1 and 2 (and so on) are added together to create an image that is brighter. This probably means that the sensor doesn't 'discharge' before it has recorded two frames.

    Does that make any sence? :)

    'Still cameras' are so much easier to understand :D - at least to me...
  • Bo Lorentzen 4 months ago
    LOL.. well Im not too sure I understand it any better... the cameras "offer" the option of 1/12th sec... that is easy.

    BUT - I get a bit fuzzy knowing that the same camera produces one image 30 times a second (basically in the us) however if that is true, the shutter can not possible be open for 1/12th of a second.. (it would only be able to make 12 images or less) so it seems that any shutterspeed lower than 1/30th on video is something other than shutter-speed.. honestly Im pretty confused about this, lots of cameras offers lower speeds though my SD2 don't just have a slow-shutter mode (same thing I guess)
  • Bo Lorentzen 4 months ago
    Hey Rico - you are the Merlin Steady cam star here - it seems to me the only solution is empirical research - you are going to have to shoot the same pan at the same movement speed and the same walk at the same speed with several different shutterspeeds and then composite them in vertical stripes in Vegas (SMILE) so we can watch them and see what these options looks like. Its all on you now.. (SMILE)
  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    Ok. I am really confused now. What is it that makes a "frame" on video tape? Is it dependent on the shutter opening and closing to create it. Or is it a set length of tape. I thought that with film a "frame" is a single entity defined by its shape(length xwidth) and exists prior to and independent of the shutter.If that is not true with video tape, then I guess the shutter opening defines and creates a frame. That is the only way I can see the shutter speed changing how many frames per second are recorded, and therefore why you would think you cannot get a 1/12 shutter speed at 30fps. But I do not think this is how a video camera works.
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  • Bo Lorentzen 4 months ago
    Hmm. yeah - this is kind of puzzling.. on m SD1 one can select a night-shot mode where there is some great slow-shutter streaking going on... hmm I am going to have to try this tonight... but at the same time, Im pretty sure the camera is locked to record 25 frames per seconds, its not like under-cranking a film camera and letting it go slower. I wonder how they offer that 1/12th shutter. (smile) - this must be one of the very simple questions which have already been answered by all great cameramen in Hollywood.

    interesting - did a search- and the answer seems to be that while shorter shutter speeds keeps the image sharper because it reduces motion blur - however motion blur ties the frames together better and reduces the feeling of stuttering a bit.
    mediacollege.com/video/camera/shutter/
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 4 months ago
    OK. That makes sence too. It's all very technical, though :)
  • bigd1971 4 months ago
    I wish I would have read that link above earlier. Now it makes sense to me. My NTSC HV20 allows for a slowest shutter speed of 8. That must be 1/80 of a second not one eighth.
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  • adonis 3 months ago
    Nice, much better than your first one. The HD WMV looks really great.
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  • Justin 3 months ago
    I took photography and have worked professionally as a videographer so I can take a guess at what is going on here. The shutter speed is what dictates when and how much light spills onto your image sensor (your sensor is a really fast painter). The light is the artists glimpse of what to paint on the canvas (your HDV tape). When the shutter speed is rather low and your camera is in motion the glimpse of light that your "painter" is going to see for that longer duration of time will change quite a bit during the time the shutter is open. If, in your situation, (low indoor lighting) the sensor has to stay open longer to record a feasible amount of light, the sensor will see that glimpse of moving world as a smeared image and will essentially "smear" your footage.

    More technically, since the shutter opens, or activates, and lets light spill in on it for 1/15th of a second or 15 frames, assuming your shooting in 30fps, that period of a second is rendered as frames on your hdv tape.

    Its easier to see then understand, if you set your camera on a tripod and put the lowest shutter speed on you will notice everything looks fine, but then quickly (not too quick) pan the tripod to the right you will notice the duration of the pan, the image will smear or blur. Once you let go and the tripod settles you will notice your stationary objects are clear and in sharp focus. turn up the shutter speed gradually and you will notice the image darkens (so you might want to add light) but your stationary objects blur less and less during the pan.
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  • Regarding the "choppy" comments... I've experienced this from time to time on vimeo.. But all I needed was to put my mouse over the video, so I could see the pause button + the rest.. Then it would play smoothly... Weird but worked for me.
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  • Faye 1 month ago
    It's cool how relaxed your mom was. I can never photograph or get video of my mom looking even remotely natural.
  • [ PIXEL VIKING ] 1 month ago
    She was actually telling me that she didn't want to be filmed :) This was the first time I ever pointed a camcorder at her.

    However, after our vacation together, I think she understood the 'concept' and she enjoys watching the videos from Canada.

    She even told me that she thought the camcorder was a 'good investment' :) - that from a woman who's always telling me that I spent too much money on things I don't need (which is probably true)... :)
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