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I tested out the Canon HF-100 OIS/CMOS and I was very disappointed. (In my friends race car) My 5 year old Sony Digital 8 Camcorder is much better. If the performance is the same as in my friends car, time to return it. I really liked this camera too :(
I guess the Panasonic 3CCD, I might have to trade the Canon in for that.

Update: I returned the Canon Hf-100 and bought a Panasonic SD9 3CCD (No crappy CMOS). I will have some race footage in about two weeks.


Update #2 The SD9 was worse than the Canon...... Sticking with old digital 8 camera and gonna try an Aiptek.

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  • Chad P. 2 years ago
    Thanks! This Hf-100 sucker is getting returned
  • Lucien Kleijkers 1 year ago
    Look forward how the race video's look with the SD9. It's still OIS based but in theory should perform well since the stabilization is more corrective.

    Otherwise the SD9 won't perform as well in low-light and has slightly less resolution. I guess you can't have everything (well you could buy both).

    A simple compact camera might work as well here even without steadyshot (high shutter and then use software correction to stabilize it).
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  • mark kibort 2 years ago
    I dont think your camera mount was as secure with your old camera. sometimes the lighter cameras will move around more, because its thougth that they dont need the anchoring, but they do.
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  • Chad P. 2 years ago
    That shake has nothing to do with the mount. It is the CMOS rolling shutter effect. I also have learned it has nothing to do with the OIS. CMOS and OIS are two different things.
    Look for other examples here on Vimeo
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  • Chad P. 2 years ago
    More examples of CMOS/Rolling shutter effect:
    vimeo.com/819044
    vimeo.com/813537
    vimeo.com/813505
    vimeo.com/604275
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  • Sage Pictures 2 years ago
    That is an excellent camera.
    If you were going to use it for race videos (rare) then don't get a cmos cam.
    It's meant for normal usage and those who want filmlike quality on a budget, not extreme sports.
  • Marty Wichtmann 1 year ago
    +1
  • Jonathan Fox 8 months ago
    +2
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  • Chad P. 1 year ago
    Well- the Panasonic SD9 was bad too. I returned it. I'm just going back to my trusty Digital 8 camcorder until something better comes out.
  • Barton 1 year ago
    But show us how bad it was. Upload a similar sample from SD9 to help others make this tough choice.
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  • Luke 1 year ago
    I think if u use cam to shoot race,u can use a stabilizer like this:
    photobbs.it168.com/attachments/month_0801/20080114_9ae029c0ca9151e78597nusUHh0E60AP.jpg
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  • JarekN 1 year ago
    Any luck with the SD9??? I have HF-10 with the same problem... My was mounted on my bike and if you look at the sample video you'll see how shitty it is... I think it's not just CMOS/CCD and shutter issue... I think it also has to do with optical image stabilization... I just decided to buy second camera not HD like I used in the Unleashed video as it did a great job... Will find out from my friend which model it was and post it :D
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  • intheboost 1 year ago
    How would the HDC-HS9 operate in this environment?
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  • CL65 Captain 1 year ago
    If you want a camera just for HPDE events take a look at the $150 Aiptek HD+. I added a wide angle lens and even though my mount still has a little shake the picture turns out decent. The BIG downside to this camera is the sound - alot of wind noise. However, there is a mod I found online that shows how to solder in an external mic jack. Then I took a lavalier mic and put it in a film container and stuffed acoustical foam around it and mounted it near my license plate. No wind noise and you get the exhaust noise loud and clear.

    This clip is before the external mic mod...
    vimeo.com/1497652

    Oh, and for the record my NSX is running 1000 lb springs front and 800 lb rear so it's not a "soft" suspension by any means!

    Here is another video post processing with iStabilizer
    vimeo.com/1680400
  • Roberto Frias 1 year ago
    The videos look great. Is the wide angle lens you added your own mod, or do they sell it for the Aiptek?
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  • Lee Bryant plus 1 year ago
    I'd like to see the sd9 footage. I thought because it was CCD it would be better.

    You should post it too.
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  • Beeker 1 year ago
    camera and vw pron all in one... LOVE IT... too bad about the cam, but I can't see myself doing too much of this.
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  • Beeker 1 year ago
    btw looks like the SD9 holds up better with OIS off
    vimeo.com/1655661

    Starting to lock it in for me, hate to say it sony. I wonder if turning off image stabilization on the HF10/HF100 will do the same
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  • Bruce Foreman 11 months ago
    The main problem is failing to isolate the cam from vehicle vibration. I've had fair luck with jamming a small tripod on the floor between the edge of the seat and the dash (passenger side) with a piece of compressed foam between the front leg and the other two legs against the seat.

    I heard of others doing the same thing but with a thick piece of foam on the floor between the floor carpet and the tripod feet.

    My footage was not race footage but some of our city srreets intoduce plenty of vibration from rough pavement.

    Cam was HF100...All HD will have some degree of problem with movement.
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