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Possible features of the pro account could be larger upload storage, priority in video upload queues, extra stats, and a large Pro badge on our Vimeo profile ;-)
I'd be willing to pay a fee for a Pro Vimeo account, what are the chances of this happening in the future?
Perhaps it would be more fair if there was an option for people to contribute to Vimeo's livelihood with their time and effort rather than their money, and pay for their pro account that way.
Some people need more than what's offered. If Vimeo can't afford to just give it away, as they're already generously providing quite a bit, then someone has to pay for it. Logically that would be the people who need it or want it. Given the way they've operated thus far, I would expect something very reasonable that most people could afford. In theory, the extra money would allow them additional infrastructure so it would not affect the current quality of service people are used to with their free accounts.
I like how everyone starts equal and it is up to the user to really expand. It almost seems that the more time you spend on here the more people will watch your stuff and not rely on special badges to distinguish who here hangs out more than the next user.
Although, yes, money can only help Vimeo better the site. But paying to seem pro doesn't really ring well with me. I may be reading you wrong, but you did say "large Pro badge" I just worry about the folks that can't afford or really want those feautures (like me) not being able to enjoy the speed and reliability that vimeo already is.
my humblest opinion.
It hasn't necessarily been fair to the long time users who have been putting up with these longer wait times recently and I don't like the idea of people cutting in line just because they have extra money floating around; that's just not in the spirit of vimeo. I do believe that the team has thought about this for a long time and kept a lot of user input in mind while developing the plus account. Only time will tell, but my bet is that it shouldn't affect the experience of the regular user.
Out of curiosity, do you have any more thoughts on this since you first wrote this?
I have many videos in HD to upload.. will take 4 months at 500mb/week. (not including new ones I shoot).
But I don't like people paying more to not wait in line. There are certain things money shouldn't be able to buy.
In the meantime, Glenn, I say draw yourself a large PRO badge and edit it into your profile pic! It'll confuse some people, and I'd find it hilarious.
I think that's extremely unfair.
I'm lovin' my current upload limit though ;), I remember the original limit, I was content even then, so this is like Christmas everyday! :P
Is there anything besides upload limit that you would want from a paid Vimeo?
we all love vimeo and we want everyone who has worked so hard on it to know how much we value it.
honestly, i'm not worried about having a 'pro' account, but i do want vimeo to succeed. if vimeo ever instituted a paypal donation thing, i can promise you that i would drop a bill or two on them and never ask for anything more in return than what we have already been given.
besides, vimeo staff needs beer and drugs, too!
the vimeo creators have said that they aren't interested in "pro accounts" for the time being....
and with version 5 - it's totally not needed.
i think what would be good, and i think this would be something we could all get into is a:
DONATE MONEY button.
it could go to the vimeo budget.
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Everyday there was a list of things to test for, but instead of testing maybe a daily list of things to do or sort. I always think of all the STUFF that, say Dalas for instance, has to sift through.
If you think about it, that is a lot of STUFF to sift through. He's even mentioned that he can't watch all the videos and make sure crap isn't being posted. So that means it is up to community members to TAG things that are inappropriate.
But aside from that kind of thing what other mundane tasks are there that members can do to help alleviate so that folks like Dalas can work on more serious matters?
Sort of a sweat equity kinda thing.
The whole pro thing seemed like it may happen back when we had such limited space. Give pro users more space and a few other quirks.
If you think about it, with the space, privacy options, video quality, and community vimeo has to offer, there's no need for a pro upgrade.
Just don't do the whole, begging for money route public radio/tv has done. And THANKS for providing this site/service/connection to a community for free!
On the other hand, I currently have to wait for next week to upload a 190mb video to Vimeo (and that's 190 mb after compressing it to h264), and in the future, it will probably come to the point where I can only upload one video per week, or even have to split them and post them in a matter of weeks.
So, I don't want any ultra-elitist pro features, and definitely not some kind of "pro users only" forum, and I don't need faster encoding - I'll happily wait in line like everybody else. The only thing I'd want a "Pro" account for would be more upload/disk space. Maybe it could be an option to just buy HDD space on Vimeo? Of course, the disk space should be sold above retail price, and the proceedings should go to Vimeo - because, as many people stated, we love this site, and many of us would like to throw money this way to support it.
My big concern is the ability to have one long, high definition movie. I wouldn't mind having it in parts, as long as the viewer could easily click through them. I'm new and will soon figure out how to comprimise some quality to get longer videos, but would appreciate options to exceed a few limits at my own expense. ty!
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I don't see what the fuss is about. It won't divide anybody, some people just need more storage. Just like Flickr, and there's no problem there.
There's nothing wrong with paid accounts as long as the options people are paying for are merely EXPANSIONS of what everyone already has access to (e.g. increasing storage) as opposed to offering them things that no one else will have. It would be unfair to say, "Vimeo really needs this function because it would vastly improve the site, but since we have such a thing as pro accounts, we'll just give it to them and not bother trying to find a way to offer it to everyone" and that's what inevitably begins to happen when you split websites into paid and unpaid accounts.
I remember one site I was on that only offered a search feature to pro accounts. Anyone who didn't pay had to just randomly browse according to whatever popped up in front of them when they signed on. That to me was completely ridiculous. A search function should be standard, but instead of viewing that as a way to improve the experience for everyone, they saw it as a way to further entice people to start paying.
I know I haven't been on Vimeo forever, but I'd hate to see that kind of thing to start happening here. I want to see you guys make money, just on the right features with the right motivation.
Maybe an account that you pay for based on the weekly limit. This would seem to only affect those uploading HD content. 500 weekly means only a few minutes of video each week.
Let's not forget that, in theory, it would only be an option. If you're more then satisfied with your account as is, then great! You wouldn't need anything extra (ie more space, additional options etc). I would only see room to complain if in implementing a "Pro" service, they took away or crippled options that are already available for free.
To reiterate, I'm just thrilled with Vimeo and would gladly pay a fee for additional space, features, whatever, if for no other reason as to support them and additionally, to never have to use some God forsaken service such as YouTube again.
lol i know exactly what you mean. it's like you want to put a disclaimer or something that says, "I DID NOT MAKE IT LIKE THIS!!!" lol
Makes my eyes bleed!
And PF you dont have any vids up yet!!!
The vast majority of people will have no need for a Pro account, but there are some out there that need more than any video sharing sites currently offer. There are tons of high end Pro level photography options (Smugmug, Zenfolio, Flickr Pro), but none for video, which is just another form of media & expression. So, I think there is definitely a market for it 'cause no one else is doing it & IMO, you guys are leading the way in the online HD video sharing revolution. Soon, others will have HD too, but you could always be 2 steps ahead of them. I don't want HD to be your one trick pony, so to speak.
Like I said before, I think you guys are geared more towards the high end side of things & are for the people who are a bit more serious & picky about how their videos are presented, rather than just a "group" oriented site or someplace where the main goal is to get as many views/comments as possible. If that were the case, we'd be on YouTube or one of the other wannabes.
Anyways, some of the features I think you should consider for a possible Pro account are:
-Extra Storage Space (Unlimited?).
-The ability for any visitor (not just members) to download the original copy.
-The promise of no ads being placed on Pro members' sites, ever.
-More powerful organization options (since we'll likely have more storage & more videos), such as the ability for albums to be kept inside specific categories, such as Travel, Holidays, etc.
-The ability to use our own custom domain name, while still leaving the Vimeo co-branding intact.
Those are the big ones as I see them. Of course later on, you could develop other features as you see fit such as custom themes, minor video editing options & things of that nature.
Remember, as another users above said, this isn't to take away anything from the current free users who want to remain free. This would be just an addition for those of us who need a little extra.
Thanks for listening!
I guess thats a win win win :-)
Can't wait.
- Ray
Ill keep posted for more info on this feature.
Sorry for the extra blog, didn't know their was
already a huge forum on the topic of pro accounts.
RIGHT ON VIMEO!
- Ray
Bo
I am in disbelief that a site like this doesn't allow you to re-arrange the videos in your channel. If I had known I would have planned my uploads more strategically.
So I would love to see being able to list videos on your site and channel in order. I know you can do it in an album where for me is appreciated but not as important as my videos folder and channels.
I would love to be able to have a better video presentation. One thing everyone loved about Stage6 was the ability to make the videos the center or focus. Being able to have a dark background or fade out the large white/beige area would really present the videos in a more cinematic fashion.
I also think one of the simple features the site lacks is the ability to select a still from the video yourself (whether you choose from 3 or 9) just having a choice would make for more appetizing videos - and get them more clicks. As opposed to videos that wound up with the one black frame or a frame from a dissolve, etc making the still indecipherable.
Stats are great but not as important as the other features I mentioned. I can get by with the bandwidth but can see why others may want to pay extra for more bandwidth but that could possibly be set up as a solo pay feature so those of us who just want better features don't pay as much as those who need 2G a week.
Although I signed up for Veoh and Vimeo at the same time, I like the look and quality of Vimeo but Veoh is leading in features and I would love to be able to phase out one or the other site (using just Vimeo).
But in order to do so, I'd have to see more features. Veoh allows users to syndicate videos. You upload your video to Veoh and it posts it on Veoh, YouTube, MySpace, & Google. A very innovative idea that saves people a ton of time. It also allows you to choose a still, arrange the videos order in a channel, etc.
Please please consider some of these features and if it was paid for (in order to remove ads) i think everyone agrees we'd rather pay then have you sell our info like creepy company's like Facebook (if you don't know what I am talking about read the article in Playboy last month). Pay for privacy - as far as I am concerned!!! And def pay for features - we want to support you!
Thanks,
Sara The Wiggle Puppy
We do actually allow custom thumbnails, just go to the "thumbnails" section of your settings page.
Honestly, I don't need another social networking site (thats what Facebook & the tons of other clones are for). What I would like though is my own Pro level video sharing site which I can direct my friends/family to that has the options & features that I would gladly pay for. Which so far, no one has been able to deliver.
- Ray
Here are the four features I'd like most:
1) Larger weekly quota - 1GB would be plenty for me; might not be enough for others. Maybe tiered by price?
2) More embedded player options, especially a pop-up player where I could change the thumbnail and the player dimensions separately. Clients like big, clear videos, but few of them want to devote a 640X360 (or larger) space on their main page to a video link. A popup player solves this problem.
3) No post-roll Vimeo link or ad on *my* embeds. Run all the ads you want on Vimeo or if someone else embeds my clients' videos somewhere else. But I need to do "no ad-no link" embeds.
4) password-protected "hidden" videos. With this feature I could let clients see their final videos and approve them before I released them to the whole world.
Thanks,
- Robin
But it would be nice to have some package where you could pay and it offers you more space a week.
Especially since when I delete a video it doesn't give me my space back so I go through space fast and the wait for the next week so it resets sucks.
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I say concentrate on FEATURES. Get rid of the ads on Pros sites, let us use a domain name & give us more features.
That said, I am going to disagree with Larry a bit when he mentions the quotas, and asks how many videos could you possibly create in a week. If you're really a pro, quite a lot. I've got enough video sitting in queue right now to max my upload quota through the end of the summer, and more coming in weekly.
Putting up 720p gets me about 20 minutes per week at best quality, or 30 minutes if I back it down. At the moment, I am finishing video at a faster rate than I an upload it.
I'd gladly pay a fee to be able to upload as I finish.