HF 10 with iMovie '08 or Final Cut Pro in the Vimeo Cameras Forum

Ryan Gravener 2 months ago

I have 13" macbook with 2.5gb ram and my camcorder is the canon HF 10 (HF10, HF-10).

When using iMovie '08 I can preview my videos but when I import they take forever to import (2-3x movie length). On top of this they are squished down.

I do have final cut pro but I have never used the software. If anyone could help me out that would be great.

I believe all my settings are for 16x9.

Thanks,
Ryan
Eugenia Loli-Queru 2 months ago

iMovie usually asks if you want to import as 540p or 720p or 1080i. Select 1080i and the right frame rate.

What do you mean squished down? Do you mean that it becomes 4:3? If yes, do this for me: change your HF10's setting to 1440x1080 instead of 1920x1080 and shoot a clip. Import that clip. See if that works as widescreen. If yes, then the problem is that iMovie doesn't properly resize full 1080p clips to 1440x1080 with the right aspect ratio. If that's the case, then it's an iMovie bug. The reason why iMovie would do that is because both FCE and iMovie don't support full 1920x1080, but they have a cap on 1440x1080x1.333.

Your only alternative would be AE or FCP.
Video by Wes 2 months ago

Premiere Pro CS3 is a better alternative. Especially the Production Premium Suite. All the big programs are there After Effects, Flash, Illustrator, Photoshop, the very cool On Location that lets you record directly to your computer (complete with programmed recording such as time-lapse) and they all work seamlessly, no need to render when jumping from editing to motion graphics, and everything that gets worked on updates across the suite - it's heaven on a harddrive, and it can handle 1920x1080.
It's a jump ahead of the others as far as work flow.
Eugenia Loli-Queru 2 months ago

The guy uses a Mac. There's no Premiere for the Mac anymore and After Effects is not a real editor.
Video by Wes 2 months ago

Premiere IS so available on a Mac.

Any time you manipulate footage, you've edited it, After Effects qualifies as an editing software. Is it a motion graphics application? Yes. The best.

Is Premiere motion graphics software? Yes, but it's no After Effects.
Video by Wes 2 months ago

Sorry Eugenia Loli-Queru, but you're totally wrong.

Totally wrong.

And I hope you haven't been telling people Premiere is unavailable to Macs, because if you did, then when those folks find out it is available, - they might not trust your opinion on tech issues down the line.
Premiere is available to Macs by running Boot Camp or any of the Windows based software emulators that Macs use every day. And it works great on a Mac. A few of the new special filters aren't available, but you don't really miss them.
In fact you can probably run Premiere with more RAM on a Mac due to its unix based format, than on the average PC (32 bit 4GB limit).
This new generation of applications, and the way they are Dynamically-Linked in the Adobe Production Premium Suite, has just leap-frogged past the FCP Suite

(software cobbled from divergent companies and labled a "suite" because they're in the same box)

because the various bundled applications are part of an actual software family.

FCP is old school. I know a lot of people will argue it's not, but it's just been eclipsed by CS3.
Eugenia Loli-Queru 2 months ago

Oh JEEZ.

I told you that Premiere is not available for the Mac, and you said it was. THEN, you obviously did your RESEARCH, and you found that I was RIGHT. There is no CS3 Premiere for the Mac. Adobe DISCONTINUED Premiere for Macs YEARS AGO. And instead of apologizing for being wrong, you came back here and you wrote this VITRIOLIC second comment against me, saying that "you can have Premiere via Bootcamp" and that people won't trust my opinion anymore.

This behavior of yours right here against me was uncalled for, and utterly defensive. The point is that VERY FEW Mac users use Bootcamp to run Windows, and you can't force users to use another OS just to run an app. More over, NOT EVERYONE has an Intel Mac. Most users still use PowerPC Macs where Bootcamp is not available at all.

The bottom line remains: there is no Premiere for Mac OS X. Only After Effects. And AE is NOT a real editor, it makes editing pretty difficult. It *is* possible to edit with AE, but it's not recommended. AE is *primarily* an effects application.
Video by Wes 2 months ago

I apologize if I came off as defensive. I have no need to defend what is correct. I did not have to do research to know what I have long known, and what many others have long known. I am one of those folks that uses it on Both Mac and PC. So there ya' go.
Telling people they can't get Premiere Pro for use on Macs is incorrect.
How much simpler can I state that?
It has always been incorrect. And until something changes, e.g. Adobe makes it impossible to run Premiere on a Mac via emulators, telling people you can't run Premiere on a Mac is incorrect, and irresponsible.

I don't know how you have determined "VERY FEW Mac users use Bootcamp..."
I don't know how you have determined "Most users still use PowerPC Macs..."

The bottom line remains - Premiere Pro is available for use on a Mac.
Though you might not be able to do it, there are many that ARE ALREADY doing it. Disseminating the idea that one can't have a Mac and use Premiere is misleading and irresponsible. Whatever you think of me being defensive or whatever, I don't need to defend what's true, you should stop disseminating misleading information.

p.s. I think it is you that owes people you have mislead an apology. :)
Eugenia Loli-Queru 2 months ago

You are unbelievable.
Videos by Kerry 2 months ago

"Telling people they can't get Premiere Pro for use on Macs is incorrect. How much simpler can I state that?"

Dude, come off it already. When we say "Mac", we're talking about the OS, not the machine itself. Everyone knows Intel Macs can run Windows natively. But still saying Premiere is available for Mac (which is what you meant) is incorrect. Its available for Windows, not Mac.

Then you go on about needing to run Premiere with more RAM on a Mac since its "UNIX based", which is absurd. OS X is UNIX based, not the hardware itself.

I would just stop posting right now since all you're doing is showing your ignorance.
Video by Wes 2 months ago

13" Macbook with 2.5 GB Ram, can probably handle emulation to run Premiere
Eugenia Loli-Queru 2 months ago

If you are suggesting people should run ANY video editor under emulation then you have no clue what you are talking about and you are not serious about video editing.

I was the editor in chief for 3 years of an operating system and system software tech site, and before that I worked as a software developer. What are your credentials when you suggest something like this?

I give up.
Videos by Kerry 2 months ago

Intel Macs don't use emulation to run Windows. Its native just like on any other PC. The PowerPC Macs used emulation.

Any other nonsense posts you'd like us to destroy today??
iix23 2 months ago

I have bought the HF 100 because of these kind of problems.

HF 10 has flash memory integrated so you have to go through the camera to do your transfers and many softwares don't like the
iix23 2 months ago

AVCHD format.

The HF 100 has an external HCDC memory card. So you can transfer data directly without using the camera's software.

I know that this doesn't help you a lot but it might help the next guy/girl who wants to buy that brand of camera.

PS I love the camera it gives me good results even when filming car and motorcycle races at high speed.

feel free to come and whatch the results.

Ian @ Taiwan
Video by Wes 2 months ago

I know people are reading this, so I tried to be polite. I love to make motion pictures, and feel everyone should get real help when they ask, I will respond to the"smarty-pants" folks who are trying to irresponsibly disseminate information about Premiere Pro CS3.

it is available for Macs.
End of Story.
Anyone telling you it's not, is ignorant or lying.
(PowerPC and earlier machines can only run the earlier versions of Premiere for Macintosh, but those aren't the Pro series)

But since you self proclaimed "experts" are refuting this, I must simply and humbly submit this suggestion:

Go to Adobe.com, look up Premiere Pro CS3, and navigate to the link where you can purchase Premiere Pro CS3 (drumroll please) for Mac. It's $299.00

As I said, it is ignorant and irresponsible to give out false information such as you have done.
As far as misrepresenting the premise of what I have stated clearly in black and white, I'll let it slide. I'll assume your emotions got the best of you. (I never by the way said Unix was hardware based, I dabbled in Unix and found it too vast for what I needed to do and left all that up to the IT guys). I was speaking about the amounts of ram you can use when you use a Mac versus an unmodified standard PC OS. Read more carefully.

I have no idea if you were actually a software blah, blah, blah....blah.
There really is no way I'm taking the time to verify your "credentials", but I might suggest you go directly to adobe.com and prove to yourself that what I said in my first response is absolutely true, and that you SHOULD know better, if you are what you claim to be.
I suggest you call Adobe and tell them Mac users can't buy something you believe doesn't exist.

For those that have read any of this pedantic nonsense, my apologies. I hope that you consider using Premiere Pro CS3 to do your production. It's a great suite, and intuitively constructed, like all Adobe stuff. If you like Photoshop you'll love PPro CS3.
I don't work for Adobe, and have used all the major editing applications. For my personal projects I like Premiere Pro, which is why I recommend it.
Video by Wes 2 months ago

And by the way Terry, yes there are posts I would like you to destroy today... yours.
(Hopefully byou can do it before people start checking out Premiere Pro CS3 for Macintosh)

I'm so curious, how do you not know this simple fact?
Video by Wes 2 months ago

My work is done. Now I can leave this page.
Good luck all!